Americans & Gas Prices

Casey

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#21
I've never been to London, but my guess is that it doesn't come close to comparing to L.A.
In terms of public transport? Yeah most people I know in London don't bother to drive much. It's easier to take the tube. If you drive in central London you have to pay a congestion charge.
 

Pittsey

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#22
People in New York don't drive as much relative to other cities in the U.S.

L.A. would be a better example.


LA is very easy to drive in, and the roads are much larger in LA... Besides that big freeway which took me 2 hours to drive 5 miles.... I had a very easy drive there.
 

AmerikazMost

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#24
LA is very easy to drive in, and the roads are much larger in LA... Besides that big freeway which took me 2 hours to drive 5 miles.... I had a very easy drive there.
The first thing everyone I know who has ever been to L.A., including my best friend, tells me is how horrible it is to drive out there. The highways are five lanes both directions with bumper-to bumper traffic going 70 mph.

Even if you don't consider that bad or dangerous, that's not the point. The point is that everyone out there drives everywhere they go, and they don't have any real alternatives.
 

Prize Gotti

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#25
You mention public transport. One of the many systems in the UK that doesn't work. The use of a bus is expensive if you live outside London. Trains, lol, yeah when they actually run/arrive, and not full up. Taxi? Even the Trains are cheaper than taxis. Cheapest method of transport is a car, and most people in the UK live in some sort of financial poverty.
 

Casey

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#28
If there's one thing that's annoying, it's foreigners who do nothing but hate the US.
Agreed. I love the US. I have issues with your current government, but then most sane people who live there do as well.

When it comes to natural beauty in the landscape, friendly people and choices - it's the best country to live in the western world. Not to mention everything is cheap there - compared to the UK at least.

Also when it comes to racial integration you guys are a million miles ahead of the UK as well.
 

Pittsey

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#30
Also when it comes to racial integration you guys are a million miles ahead of the UK as well.

I strongly disagree...

A lot of Americans hate ethnic minority... And then on the other end of the scale you have the white kids who worship black culture and use the slang, and wear the clothes in their everyday lives....

The American Government itself is oppresive to minorities. Hardly any financial support to the poor... And you lose your right to vote when you get a conviction... Unless I am mistaken?


The UK will welcome anyone from any country... Give them a home, a wage, a pension (dependent on age), free health care and will use positive discrimination to give them a job over any white person where possible... Now that is intergration at it's finest.... My tax money is there... and I don't complain... Just because I fuck a white girl doesn't make me a racist...


Can't think of any smilie to put here.... But this post is slightly tongue in cheek... Although what I posted above I believe to be true. And I may not get to see your replies as I am going away in a bit.... :(
 

Pittsey

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#31
Also when it comes to racial integration you guys are a million miles ahead of the UK as well.

I strongly disagree...

A lot of Americans hate ethnic minority... And then on the other end of the scale you have the white kids who worship black culture and use the slang, and wear the clothes in their everyday lives....

The American Government itself is oppresive to minorities. Hardly any financial support to the poor... And you lose your right to vote when you get a conviction... Unless I am mistaken?


The UK will welcome anyone from any country... Give them a home, a wage, a pension (dependent on age), free health care and will use positive discrimination to give them a job over any white person where possible... Now that is intergration at it's finest.... My tax money is there... and I don't complain... Just because I fuck a white girl doesn't make me a racist...


Can't think of any smilie to put here.... But this thread is slightly tongue in cheek... Although what I posted above I believe to be true. And I may not get to see your replies as I am going away in a bit.... :(



The first thing everyone I know who has ever been to L.A., including my best friend, tells me is how horrible it is to drive out there. The highways are five lanes both directions with bumper-to bumper traffic going 70 mph.

Even if you don't consider that bad or dangerous, that's not the point. The point is that everyone out there drives everywhere they go, and they don't have any real alternatives.

Agreed... The highways are annoying... But the M25 in the UK is the same....


And in the actual city centre LA is empty compared to London or even greater London which is far more rural!!!.... Maybe it's harsh compared to the rest of America... But compared to London it's a piece of piss....


As for public transport... Yes the tube is good... But it costs $20 for a multi-zone ticket... Buses are shit... Taxi's are $100+ if you go anywhere... with A $40 minimum fare
 

linx

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#36
Oh go figure, it's a Canadian that agrees.

Nah its nothing to do with the US, but you live in a country with a low cost of living and a high average wage, but you bitch about things being expensive.
It'll just continue make you and everyone else look stupid when you look at everyone in the US and say "you". Don't tell me I bitch if I don't. Point out the people that do and talk to them about it.
 

Casey

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#37
I strongly disagree...

A lot of Americans hate ethnic minority... And then on the other end of the scale you have the white kids who worship black culture and use the slang, and wear the clothes in their everyday lives....

The American Government itself is oppresive to minorities. Hardly any financial support to the poor... And you lose your right to vote when you get a conviction... Unless I am mistaken?

The UK will welcome anyone from any country... Give them a home, a wage, a pension (dependent on age), free health care and will use positive discrimination to give them a job over any white person where possible... Now that is intergration at it's finest.... My tax money is there... and I don't complain... Just because I fuck a white girl doesn't make me a racist...


Can't think of any smilie to put here.... But this thread is slightly tongue in cheek... Although what I posted above I believe to be true. And I may not get to see your replies as I am going away in a bit.... :(
I can see how you would say that. But I didn't say the US was more racist than here. I said racial integration. I'll try and explain what I mean by that.

Over here, they claim to accept minorities. In a way, this is true. But, because of how old this country is, it doesn't work. There's never gonna be a diverse government since the House of Lords is all made up of rich white landowners whose families have been those landowners for damn near a thousand years if not more.

Basically, the way the UK approaches minorities (and I see this with my own eyes coming from a punjabi background) - encourages minorities to form cultural bubbles and exist just as they might have done in their own country...for example....come to Handsworth - it's basically just Indians. There is no integration with society. You may as well be in India. Same in Southall. Same in Lozells, Birmingham but with the Jamaican community.

Therefore there is no integration. The Goverment tries to let everyone have their own events. They make a fuss in the news about Diwali, but you know it's just for Indians. They make a fuss over Chinese New Year for the Chinese folks. It's kinda like saying "well, you guys can have your celebration, and you guys can have yours" and so on. But those will never be English celebrations. Despite the fact that most of the third and fourth generations Asians and Blacks are just as English as any white people. This leads to further separatism and aggravation between the communities.

The difference in the states is - patriotism is not limited to white people there. I was there for 4th July and I went to a few celebrations, where there were people of all races celebrating. Those kind of events don't discriminate - why? Because although everyone has their own ethnic background - they are ALL American. They will all stand there and celebrate and wave American flags etc because nobody is excluded.

That mentality of all-for-one patriotism does NOT exist in the UK. Point blank, period. When was the last time you saw a black or asian waving a Union Jack? It doesn't happen because we are still treated like minorities here and the atmosphere here is still one of upper-class whites making everyone else feel like they are doing minorities a favor by allowing us to live in this country. The Union Jack is a Caucasian symbol and England is a Caucasian country - or at least, that's what you'd think looking at your TV screen, listening to your radio, or reading your newspaper.

The backwards mentalities and pretense of "tolerance" and "diversity" is actually having a negative effect on racial integration. It's a half-assed way of going about things and ends up making ethnic groups bond together in their own units. That's not integration in any sense of the word.
 

AmerikazMost

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#38
Nah its nothing to do with the US, but you live in a country with a low cost of living and a high average wage, but you bitch about things being expensive.
Yea, but the wage disparity here is a lot greater (the 90-10% ratio in the U.S. is 4.6 and growing, and the UK's is only 3.5), meaning that the average is skewed and gives a false impression of how good it really is.

Yeah, our cost of everyday living is better than Europe's, but they don't have to pay what we do in health care, college, day care, insurance, etc., plus we have a shitty social program. I mean shit, about 85% of Britain's health care is public, compared to 40% here.
I strongly disagree...

A lot of Americans hate ethnic minority... And then on the other end of the scale you have the white kids who worship black culture and use the slang, and wear the clothes in their everyday lives....
Yeah, Europe has no problem with racism whatsoever. The World Cup officials who threatened to forfeit games if their fans made racist chants were just delusional.

And you're right. Your 7.5% minority population is much more well integrated than ours. :rolleyes: You can't even compare the two countries. Who knows what y'all would be like if more than 7 out of every 100 people you saw wasn't white. Not making any personal accusations, but shit, some of your people would be racist pricks too. Hell, they already are. They just can't find anyone to commit hate crimes against.
The American Government itself is oppresive to minorities. Hardly any financial support to the poor... And you lose your right to vote when you get a conviction... Unless I am mistaken?
That has less to do with race and more to do with idiot conservatism.

Europeans don't know what conservatism is. Our "liberal" party is more conservative than your conservative parties. Y'all go from very liberal to liberal to moderate to Nazi.

The UK will welcome anyone from any country...
Except Muslims...or is that France?
Give them a home, a wage, a pension (dependent on age), free health care
Utopia
and will use positive discrimination to give them a job over any white person where possible... Now that is intergration at it's finest....
Really? Because I call it reverse discrimination.

Why does anyone need special treatment because of a physical characteristic? Shit, people born into social economic shitholes are the ones who need help.
My tax money is there... and I don't complain... Just because I fuck a white girl doesn't make me a racist...
wtf? lol
 

Pittsey

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#39
Yea, but the wage disparity here is a lot greater (the 90-10% ratio in the U.S. is 4.6 and growing, and the UK's is only 3.5), meaning that the average is skewed and gives a false impression of how good it really is.

Yeah, our cost of everyday living is better than Europe's, but they don't have to pay what we do in health care, college, day care, insurance, etc., plus we have a shitty social program. I mean shit, about 85% of Britain's health care is public, compared to 40% here.

Yeah, Europe has no problem with racism whatsoever. The World Cup officials who threatened to forfeit games if their fans made racist chants were just delusional.

And you're right. Your 7.5% minority population is much more well integrated than ours. :rolleyes: You can't even compare the two countries. Who knows what y'all would be like if more than 7 out of every 100 people you saw wasn't white. Not making any personal accusations, but shit, some of your people would be racist pricks too. Hell, they already are. They just can't find anyone to commit hate crimes against.

That has less to do with race and more to do with idiot conservatism.

Europeans don't know what conservatism is. Our "liberal" party is more conservative than your conservative parties. Y'all go from very liberal to liberal to moderate to Nazi.


Except Muslims...or is that France?

Utopia

Really? Because I call it reverse discrimination.

Why does anyone need special treatment because of a physical characteristic? Shit, people born into social economic shitholes are the ones who need help.

wtf? lol


As I tried to explain to SOFI last night the UK is not Europe... It is completely seperate... An Eastern European country that makes Monkey noises is not the UK....


You quote many statistics... But have you actually visited the UK? Or are you just quoting CNN....



And Militant... I agree with the majority of your comments... But I don't feel it is Britain that forces minorities into their groups.... It's the choice of the people... You don't see as many different places of worship in the states.... Nor are signs in 5 different languages....




And I'm not slating the States.... I like the place... I am just stating the differences.... And like I said with views like AM's.... It's obvious he hasn't left his continent.



And your stats are wrong... We pay all the tax's and insurances... We pay for University... And we pay for day care... The only free part is health care... And it's not exactly well run.
 

Flipmo

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#40
I love it when ppl generalize Europe as a whole... I guess they're not aware of the number of countries in Europe.

The UK is very very good with minorities and they seldom have racist attitudes in football. This isn't the 80s where mad hooligans were the problem. You have more racist fans in Italy than in all of UK. As for us Eastern Europeans... we are insane, so leave us alone. lol
 

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