is there a situation where rape is acceptable?

[Illuminattile]

Its not about what you wear its about putting yourself into a situation.

Take that same black man and put him into the middle of a KKK meeting; then yeah, its wrong, but it's his own damn fault he should have known better.

There are huge differences between the situations. A Klan rally is a meeting of known racists. A nightclub is not a meeting of known rapists. You can't say "Don't go to parties, because people sometimes get raped there". That's like saying "don't drive your car on the M1, because car crashes sometimes happen there".

Its the same with these girls, its not what they wear, its where they wear it and how they act. They KNOW these guys want to fuck and they provoke the situation; they should know better; and if they get raped... Look rape is ALWAYS wrong; but at a certain point these girls have to stop and say "You know what, it wouldnt have happened if I hadnt acted like a total slut."

Girls want attention but then cant handle it when it goes too far. You dont starve a lion only to dance in front of it covered in blood and BBQ sauce and then complain when the lion eats you. Its your own damn fault.

People aren't animals, and the majority of them can control themselves. No girl dresses the way she does because she wants guys to want to rape her. Girls might dress provocatively to get noticed, but that doesn't mean that everyone who notices her is allowed to violently abuse her. You can say they dress like "total sluts", but that's subjective. To some people, even the most moderately dressed girls would be considered "sluts". You should be allowed to dress and act how you want (within reason) without worrying about the assumptions other people make about you.

Look at it this way; if I break into an art gallery to steal the Mona Lisa, is it the gallery's fault for having something that I really want? They put it on display, they let me look at it and admire it, but then they won't let me have it. Surely they're asking for it to be taken?

 

[Casey]

There are huge differences between the situations. A Klan rally is a meeting of known racists. A nightclub is not a meeting of known rapists. You can't say "Don't go to parties, because people sometimes get raped there". That's like saying "don't drive your car on the M1, because car crashes sometimes happen there".


People aren't animals, and the majority of them can control themselves. No girl dresses the way she does because she wants guys to want to rape her. Girls might dress provocatively to get noticed, but that doesn't mean that everyone who notices her is allowed to violently abuse her. You can say they dress like "total sluts", but that's subjective. To some people, even the most moderately dressed girls would be considered "sluts". You should be allowed to dress and act how you want (within reason) without worrying about the assumptions other people make about you.

Look at it this way; if I break into an art gallery to steal the Mona Lisa, is it the gallery's fault for having something that I really want? They put it on display, they let me look at it and admire it, but then they won't let me have it. Surely they're asking for it to be taken?

I agree with Illu, that was a good example regarding the art.

 

[Synful*Luv]

I think there are certain situations where the girl is asking for it but no, no ones deserves to be raped. It's like playing with fireworks. You don't deserve to get burned but you make a mistake and you'll pay the price.
Changing your made about sex is definitely not one of those situations. Getting drunk in a mini-skirt and flirting with every guy in the room is.
But a girl should be allowed to do what she wants without facing such serious repercussions.

EXACTLY

This is what I was saying the entire time before Devious got his damn panties in a bunch.

 

[hizzle?]

I LOL everytime I see the title of this thread.

 

[Prize Gotti]

I do not think that just because I go out to a club dressed the way I want to dress and drink means I'm asking to be raped!! I'm out to have a good time with my friends. I have a decent body and IF I want to dress in a way that is "provacative" then so be it. Last I checked this was a free country and I could dress however I would like. A man NEEDS to learn how to respect a woman no matter what she is wearing.
Oh yeah AND I'm a flirt, thats how I am. That doesn't mean I'm asking to be raped either! I've never went any farther than flirting and EVERY guy I meet knows I have a boyfriend.

Just because YOU (trish) dont drink and dont dress "provacatively" doesnt mean that everyone who does is a slut! I'm pretty sure you know me and you know me well. am I really someone you would call a slut? or are you just juding a book by its cover??

It's not just how you dress, its how you behave. If you are behaving like a whore, you are asking for it. Not that it justifies rape. But if you are gonna behave like a whore than you should not expect people to treat you like your not.

 

[Illuminattile]

But if you are gonna behave like a whore than you should not expect people to treat you like your not.

Whores get paid.

 

[Devious]

EXACTLY

This is what I was saying the entire time before Devious got his damn panties in a bunch.

well i'm sorry but "the drunk slut was probably asking for it" is not what he was saying, and if that's what you meant by it, then you should have made yourself clear in your first post. maybe you should become a defense lawyer and defend rapists, they love to blame it on the victim and portray them to be sluts. that seems to be right up your alley Trish.

 

[Mo_Murda]

When the bitch refuses to put out.

lmaoo

 

[Prize Gotti]

Whores get paid.

Throw her some change when your finished then.

 

[S O F I]

You should be allowed to dress and act how you want (within reason) without worrying about the assumptions other people make about you.

In Wonderland, yes.

 

[Kareem]

i am not naive about the situation...i'm just saying that i shouldnt have to wear long sleeved turtle neck shirts and loosly fitting pants JUST because there is the possiblity that i will be raped. I never walk in a dark parking lot alone! and i'm never without someone by my side when i go anywhere. i know this world is way to unsafe to think that just because it hasnt happen before that it wont happen.

i think its naive to think everyone who dresses a certain way is a slut thats asking to be raped!

I see what your saying and agree fully no one deserves to be raped period. BUT my main gripe is females that dress like whores but demand respect from men, first a man will not respect you if you don't respect yourself. If your in the club with ya titties an ass hanging out ya need to question your morals (I'm not saying this is how you are) Dave Chappelle said once "You may not be a whore but your wearing a whores uniform" No one deserves rape thats for sure an rape is seldom about sex its more about power an hatred.

 

[Synful*Luv]

well i'm sorry but "the drunk slut was probably asking for it" is not what he was saying, and if that's what you meant by it, then you should have made yourself clear in your first post. maybe you should become a defense lawyer and defend rapists, they love to blame it on the victim and portray them to be sluts. that seems to be right up your alley Trish.

Sorry, I just don't care enough to passionately argue points. If she's dressed like a slut and drunk she does not deserve to be raped. She's just a stupid drunk slut who might run into problems if she's with the wrong crowd or leading some guy on. Is that better?

 

[Tha_Wood]

she dosent deserve it but she brings it on her self. if you leave meat out in the street and a cat comes and eats it whose fault is it? thats somethin like what this muslim guy said and i agree with him

 

[ARon]

^The difference between that is the cat needs to eat. No man needs to rape a woman. Just like no KKK member has to kill a black man who shows up to a rally. Sick people make the choice to rape. Girls also make choices to dress like that but they arent thinkin hmm maybe I will get raped tonight if I wear that skirt.

It's kind of upsetting me seeing all these people say she brought it onto herself and what not.

 

[Tru Principle]

^The difference between that is the cat needs to eat. No man needs to rape a woman. Just like no KKK member has to kill a black man who shows up to a rally. Sick people make the choice to rape. Girls also make choices to dress like that but they arent thinkin hmm maybe I will get raped tonight if I wear that skirt.

It's kind of upsetting me seeing all these people say she brought it onto herself and what not.

Whether a cat needs to eat or doesn't, whether a rape needs to rape or doesn't, has no relevance on the point he was making.

Irrespective of WHY someone does what he does, the issue here is whether you're doing ANYTHING to increase your risk.

K?

 

[Casey]

In Wonderland, yes.

Well I guess I live in Wonderland, then.

 

[Rukas]

There are huge differences between the situations. A Klan rally is a meeting of known racists. A nightclub is not a meeting of known rapists. You can't say "Don't go to parties, because people sometimes get raped there". That's like saying "don't drive your car on the M1, because car crashes sometimes happen there".


People aren't animals, and the majority of them can control themselves. No girl dresses the way she does because she wants guys to want to rape her. Girls might dress provocatively to get noticed, but that doesn't mean that everyone who notices her is allowed to violently abuse her. You can say they dress like "total sluts", but that's subjective. To some people, even the most moderately dressed girls would be considered "sluts". You should be allowed to dress and act how you want (within reason) without worrying about the assumptions other people make about you.

Look at it this way; if I break into an art gallery to steal the Mona Lisa, is it the gallery's fault for having something that I really want? They put it on display, they let me look at it and admire it, but then they won't let me have it. Surely they're asking for it to be taken?

No body is asking to get raped, I never said they were asking for it or deserved it in anyway, nor did I say somebody was allowed to rape somebody based on the way they were dressed. I simply said that at some point, these girls need to accept some sort of responsibility.

Using your example; if an art gallery puts the Mona Lisa on display, taunts you making you want it, and then doesn't lock it up or protect it, just letting it hang out there for anybody to take, they are not ASKING for it to be taken, but if it is stolen, they are partly to blame for their negligence and are somewhat responsible for the outcome because they could have prevented it.

 

[Rukas]

^The difference between that is the cat needs to eat. No man needs to rape a woman..

Serial rapists have a fucked up psychological NEED to rape. A lot of rapists simply can not resist until they are caught.

So you saying it is not a need is debatable for a lot of situations.

 

[Tru Principle]

Serial rapists have a fucked up psychological NEED to rape. A lot of rapists simply can not resist until they are caught.

So you saying it is not a need is debatable for a lot of situations.

You're making perfect sense, I just didn't wanna take it a step further so he can argue that it is not a "need". For fuck's sake, if it's a not need.. why the fuck would they do it and do it and do it.. but thats another issue.

Even if they don't NEED it and just feel like it.. your Mona Lisa examples sums it up..

YOU'RE TEMPTING FATE when you INCREASE the risk of something bad happening to you by FLAUNTING it in an unsafe environment.

 

[Farzin]

I find it funny how ppl are saying "they asked for it" or "they brought it on themselves".

You do realize rape victims go through trauma for years because they think there is something they could've done to not get raped?

Ask one rape victim if she asked for it and i'll bet she'll slap you back to the stone ages where your mind seems to be stuck in.

Even if a woman is dressed sexy with short skirt etc it doesnt mean she wants to have sex. Many women dress that way because they can. Simple as that. It's sad how many of you are actually trying to justify rape. It's because of opinions like your that rapists get off with a lot less than they deserve or women not even coming forward.