should i take the fact that you responded to Flip's post and not mine as a concession that you have no evidence to back up your claim? i mean i'm not trying to attack you, but it bothers me that you were so harsh to Carmi, and tried to tell her, under the guise of knowledge, that she is putting her cat through immense pain when it's simply not true. like i said, if you can provide some evidence to back up what you said i'd like to see it, because i'm very skeptical since the leading organization in animal health care in North America makes no mention of this at all. i'm a cat lover myself and i have never heard this before, and i've talked to a number of vets in my time, none of them have ever said anything like this. again, i'm not trying to attack you, but if you can't provide any evidence to back up your claim, i think you owe carmi an apology, a better one than you gave her for being so harsh towards her