God gave you a brain with the intention that you would use it. Not every single action and event in life is directly controlled by some higher force. If it were, then you might as well just sit on your couch all the time and let God take care of everything. If you get in an accident and die because you were wearing a seatbelt, it's not because God wanted you to die, it's because you made a choice to not take reponsibility for your life. This "time to die" only goes so far, the gift of life and free will comes with an expectation that you will personally use the latter to care for the former.
Do You Wear Seat Belts?
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Give me one example of a seatbelt costing someone their life, and I'll give you a hundred examples of a seatbelt saving someone's life.
You're more likely to die in a car crash if you're not wearing a seatbelt than if you are. That's all you need to know. Valuing comfort over safety is unintelligent. That's not an opinion.
If you need me to explain how a seatbelt can save your life, just say the word.
I suppose you walk in front of oncoming cars when crossing the street too, right? Jesus Christ...
Yeah, way to be a non-conformist. Stick it to the man. Rage against the machine.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. From [whoever it was that said it]'s perspective, it's a good thing. I just find it ridiculous that [whoever it was that said it] ignores all the information about the importance of safety belts, but listens to Kanye. It's like saying "Well, if Kanye wears his safety belt, it must be cool".
It's not the job of celebrities to promote things like this and - effective or not - it's a sad state of affairs when people will only take measures to save their life when it's endorsed by their favourite flavour-of-the-month pop star.
You're more likely to die in a car crash if you're not wearing a seatbelt than if you are. That's all you need to know. Valuing comfort over safety is unintelligent. That's not an opinion.
If you need me to explain how a seatbelt can save your life, just say the word.
I suppose you walk in front of oncoming cars when crossing the street too, right? Jesus Christ...
Yeah, way to be a non-conformist. Stick it to the man. Rage against the machine.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. From [whoever it was that said it]'s perspective, it's a good thing. I just find it ridiculous that [whoever it was that said it] ignores all the information about the importance of safety belts, but listens to Kanye. It's like saying "Well, if Kanye wears his safety belt, it must be cool".
It's not the job of celebrities to promote things like this and - effective or not - it's a sad state of affairs when people will only take measures to save their life when it's endorsed by their favourite flavour-of-the-month pop star.
Synful*Luv said:
I'm not going to justify anything. I don't wear them, plain and simple. I'm not going to lie and say "Oh, I see the light, now i'm going to wear it all the time" to be in compliance with the general opinion of those on streethop. Typing aggresively, typing mean names at me, using examples, and using Caps Lock is NOT going to make me buckle up when I leave out the my gram's house later on to head back to the crib
If it's my time to go, then so be it. I don't believe that wearing a seatbelt will save me if it's my time to die. And if a seatbelt is the key to life, then someone should tell all these people to put down their religious manuals and grab a seatbelt instead.
Furthermore, insulting me isn't going to make me change my mind or my opinion. It's pretty ridiculous the level of intolerance a lot of people on this board possess. If someone doesn't have the same opinion as you, it shouldn't be this upsetting to you. If you guys go around like this in the real world, getting pissed at people when they don't share your same opinions and viewpoints on a particular topic, that has to be an uminaginably stressful and boring way of life. Hanging with people who think and act just like you because if they don't, you'll get upset and freak out.
But whatever, okay, so I don't wear a seatbelt, who cares. The topic of the thread: Do you wear a seatbelt. My answer: No.
I guess I should go to typing "lol" or "I agree" or "
" like most females here to make everyone happy.
If it's my time to go, then so be it. I don't believe that wearing a seatbelt will save me if it's my time to die. And if a seatbelt is the key to life, then someone should tell all these people to put down their religious manuals and grab a seatbelt instead.
Furthermore, insulting me isn't going to make me change my mind or my opinion. It's pretty ridiculous the level of intolerance a lot of people on this board possess. If someone doesn't have the same opinion as you, it shouldn't be this upsetting to you. If you guys go around like this in the real world, getting pissed at people when they don't share your same opinions and viewpoints on a particular topic, that has to be an uminaginably stressful and boring way of life. Hanging with people who think and act just like you because if they don't, you'll get upset and freak out.
But whatever, okay, so I don't wear a seatbelt, who cares. The topic of the thread: Do you wear a seatbelt. My answer: No.
I guess I should go to typing "lol" or "I agree" or "
" like most females here to make everyone happy.
Oh Synful, you are turning into _carmi. If "God" takes you, well nice knowing you. There is a reason why wearing a seatbelt is a law. It wouldn't be a law if there wasn't a study to confirm that it saves lives more-so than not wearing one.
But if you are not wearing one, why should my 5 year old cousin wear one? Hell why should infants use carseats, I mean if it's his/her time then be it, right?
But if you are not wearing one, why should my 5 year old cousin wear one? Hell why should infants use carseats, I mean if it's his/her time then be it, right?
I have to agree with Illuminattile. Seatbelts save ALOTTTTTTTTTTTTT more lives than they cost them. For every 1000 cases where a seat belt saved a life, you MIGHT find a case where it cost a life.
A seatbelt is not a small and irrelevant advancement in road safety. It ensures that in the event of a serious vehicle accident.. you won't be ejected a 100 meters in the air and then get slammed into the ground... basically breaking everyone in your body, and twisting your neck a couple times.
I am a strong believer in GOD, but I also believe that.. I can't go have sex with a million women with out protection and say "aah if its my destiney to get HIV then I just will.. no point in protecting my self" That's definitely a wrong way to think in MY opinion. You have the right to believe in a higher power, but that doesn't mean it gives you the right to not believe in preventive measures that will ensure a greater chance of survival.
Well alot of people believe in healthy food and excercise.. does it mean, having that belief is wrong just because.. it is the general opinion that people have?
I apologize for assuming that then homie. But I understand what you mean, we shouldn't have to depend on rap artists to lead a positive and productive lives. But still, it is a good thing that rap CAN inspire some good.
Why should we use ANY protection for that matter.. why should S.W.A.T wear body armor... why should Presidents roll in armored cars... why should banks have security systems.. to hell with all preventive measures.. if its our TIIIIIIIME then its our TIIIIIME.
brap.
A seatbelt is not a small and irrelevant advancement in road safety. It ensures that in the event of a serious vehicle accident.. you won't be ejected a 100 meters in the air and then get slammed into the ground... basically breaking everyone in your body, and twisting your neck a couple times.
I am a strong believer in GOD, but I also believe that.. I can't go have sex with a million women with out protection and say "aah if its my destiney to get HIV then I just will.. no point in protecting my self" That's definitely a wrong way to think in MY opinion. You have the right to believe in a higher power, but that doesn't mean it gives you the right to not believe in preventive measures that will ensure a greater chance of survival.
Well alot of people believe in healthy food and excercise.. does it mean, having that belief is wrong just because.. it is the general opinion that people have?
I apologize for assuming that then homie. But I understand what you mean, we shouldn't have to depend on rap artists to lead a positive and productive lives. But still, it is a good thing that rap CAN inspire some good.
Why should we use ANY protection for that matter.. why should S.W.A.T wear body armor... why should Presidents roll in armored cars... why should banks have security systems.. to hell with all preventive measures.. if its our TIIIIIIIME then its our TIIIIIME.
brap.
we exchange opinions and critique them on this forum. in the case when someone's opinion is so clearly misguided and wrong as this, it's actually a good thing to put them in their place. maybe they'll rethink their distorted thought and come back to the reality we all take for granted.
i have to be honest that i thought she was smarter than a lot of things she said in justification of her position.
i have to be honest that i thought she was smarter than a lot of things she said in justification of her position.
I voted sometimes cause sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Like if I'm just going up the road to my mom's house or to the store, I don't put it on. If I'm going a ways, I put it on. I ain't shame to say I don't think about it sometimes if I'm just driving around town but if I'm going on the interstate, I always remember to put it on.
There are pros and cons to everything. Wearing your seatbelt is no different. Yes they can keep you from going through the dashboard or the windshield but they can also lock up and trap you.
A police officer here almost got his guts cut out from his seatbelt. We had a big flood here one year and it had washed out a bridge and he didn't know it so when he was driving down that road, doing the speedlimit, his car went into the huge hole where the bridge was washed out. He hit that hole doing 40 mph, a dead stop from 40 mph. The seatbelt locked and cut into his stomach. That was about 15 years ago and you can still see the marks.
One of my friends got into an accident one night, hit a tree. He was wearing his seatbelt but he still got hurt really badly, internal injuries. Noone knew he had wrecked so noone came to the scene and when someone finally found the wreck, he was hanging out of the car by the seatbelt, dead. He had tried to crawl out but the seatbelt had him hung up and he died from the internal injuries.
So you see they can cause you to die just as easily as they can save your life. That's why if you don't wear em, that's you. If you do, that's you too. You can't criticize people for what they choose to do. Just like Syn said, if it's your time to go, a seatbelt ain't gonna make a bit of difference.
There are pros and cons to everything. Wearing your seatbelt is no different. Yes they can keep you from going through the dashboard or the windshield but they can also lock up and trap you.
A police officer here almost got his guts cut out from his seatbelt. We had a big flood here one year and it had washed out a bridge and he didn't know it so when he was driving down that road, doing the speedlimit, his car went into the huge hole where the bridge was washed out. He hit that hole doing 40 mph, a dead stop from 40 mph. The seatbelt locked and cut into his stomach. That was about 15 years ago and you can still see the marks.
One of my friends got into an accident one night, hit a tree. He was wearing his seatbelt but he still got hurt really badly, internal injuries. Noone knew he had wrecked so noone came to the scene and when someone finally found the wreck, he was hanging out of the car by the seatbelt, dead. He had tried to crawl out but the seatbelt had him hung up and he died from the internal injuries.
So you see they can cause you to die just as easily as they can save your life. That's why if you don't wear em, that's you. If you do, that's you too. You can't criticize people for what they choose to do. Just like Syn said, if it's your time to go, a seatbelt ain't gonna make a bit of difference.
poor baby. he has a little scar on his pig belly as opposed to a lifetime of feeding and breathing tubes, not to mention bills bills bills.
unfortunate he died, but once again he would have fared worse without. so he was stuck, well in most cases that's better than the human instinct to get out and start walking. there's a reason paramedics' first move is to immobilize accident victims.
see that's the thing... this whole destiny way of living life is a cop out for taking responsibility. every action has consequences, and when people are too cowardly to take ownership then they say oh well, it's out of my hands. there are no guardian angels, and statistics demonstrate that riskier people reap the whirlwind. call your insurance company and tell them you don't buckle up and see what happens to your rates. likewise, the old tale of fatal accidents happening close to home actually rings true for the very reason you described. feeling safe in one's own environment makes us seem invincible. bad move.
the greater impact here is that one person's failure to wear a seat belt impacts more than just them. i treasure my life, but for those who don't - well others do. your family, that person who's windshield your corpse landed on, and even people who drive by your meat on the concrete are all impacted eternally for the worse.
am i preaching? sorry, but i have seen the impact firsthand. i worked rehabing people with traumatic brain injuries following motor vehicle accidents and was the person responsible for teaching them how to say their name, use the bathroom, and remember the name of their wife. likewise i have seen a grown man literally filleted on the street from not wearing his seat belt. a 200 pound man who was rendered into ground meat because he thought that a little strap was meaningless. it's just mind boggling how someone could trivialize something that has such significance.
unfortunate he died, but once again he would have fared worse without. so he was stuck, well in most cases that's better than the human instinct to get out and start walking. there's a reason paramedics' first move is to immobilize accident victims.
see that's the thing... this whole destiny way of living life is a cop out for taking responsibility. every action has consequences, and when people are too cowardly to take ownership then they say oh well, it's out of my hands. there are no guardian angels, and statistics demonstrate that riskier people reap the whirlwind. call your insurance company and tell them you don't buckle up and see what happens to your rates. likewise, the old tale of fatal accidents happening close to home actually rings true for the very reason you described. feeling safe in one's own environment makes us seem invincible. bad move.
the greater impact here is that one person's failure to wear a seat belt impacts more than just them. i treasure my life, but for those who don't - well others do. your family, that person who's windshield your corpse landed on, and even people who drive by your meat on the concrete are all impacted eternally for the worse.
am i preaching? sorry, but i have seen the impact firsthand. i worked rehabing people with traumatic brain injuries following motor vehicle accidents and was the person responsible for teaching them how to say their name, use the bathroom, and remember the name of their wife. likewise i have seen a grown man literally filleted on the street from not wearing his seat belt. a 200 pound man who was rendered into ground meat because he thought that a little strap was meaningless. it's just mind boggling how someone could trivialize something that has such significance.
Also, even if you think your fate is determined or that you should be allowed to choose whether of not to be safe with respect to yourself, you have a responsibility to wear it because of the person walking down the street who gets hit by your 80 kph body or even more likely, the person sitting in the car with you who you fly into.
Her opinion may be misguided and wrong but she still has a right to have it. it's a good thing to make her aware, and i'm sure she is by now.
But insulting her at the same time is mean and wrong.
can't argue with that.
i'm happy to experience a little 'discomfort' and wear my seatbelt if it would prevent that happening.
But insulting her at the same time is mean and wrong.
can't argue with that.
i'm happy to experience a little 'discomfort' and wear my seatbelt if it would prevent that happening.
Dante, I'm not saying I don't agree with you at all. What I'm saying is that everyone makes their own decision about what they're gonna do and if they choose not to wear a seatbelt, nothing you can say is gonna change their mind like it or not. I see where you're coming from and I agree that just because you feel like a seatbelt isn't gonna determine your fate, it could determine someone else's and you should think about that and be responsible and wear it. But the ones that don't wear one do so for their own reasons and you'll be hardpressed to change their minds. Ya know?
Even though I fail to put mine on sometimes, I try to remember to do it because I make my kids wear theirs and it'd be hypocritical to say they hafta wear theirs when I don't wear mine now wouldn't it? Honestly I've become alot more aware of it since the law changed here and now they can stop you for not wearing one alone, they don't hafta have other reasons to stop you for not wearing your seatbelt anymore.
Like I said, I've heard stories about them saving lives and I've heard stories about them costing lives so it's not like I'm not aware of the fact that they can save your life. I'm saying that if someone chooses not to wear one, they're gonna find all kinda reasons why they choose what they choose. Arguing, insulting, pointing out facts, etc can't change their mind if they're set on it. Of course I'm gonna defend Syn cause she's female and you know we stick together lol but also because I believe that if that is what she chooses, then it's her choice and not anyone elses. Cut her some slack and let her alone, you already see nothing you say is gonna change her so just LIG.
Even though I fail to put mine on sometimes, I try to remember to do it because I make my kids wear theirs and it'd be hypocritical to say they hafta wear theirs when I don't wear mine now wouldn't it? Honestly I've become alot more aware of it since the law changed here and now they can stop you for not wearing one alone, they don't hafta have other reasons to stop you for not wearing your seatbelt anymore.
Like I said, I've heard stories about them saving lives and I've heard stories about them costing lives so it's not like I'm not aware of the fact that they can save your life. I'm saying that if someone chooses not to wear one, they're gonna find all kinda reasons why they choose what they choose. Arguing, insulting, pointing out facts, etc can't change their mind if they're set on it. Of course I'm gonna defend Syn cause she's female and you know we stick together lol but also because I believe that if that is what she chooses, then it's her choice and not anyone elses. Cut her some slack and let her alone, you already see nothing you say is gonna change her so just LIG.
And thats the sad part about it. It will cost her in the long run, only a matter of time. I have the opportunity to do ride alongs' with the LAPD. I remember seeing a 10 year old girl decapitated because she didn't wear a seatbelt. She flew through the window and a car ran her over in the process...so sad seeing her blue eyes open and just starring at you...